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	<title>Comments on: Look ma, no hands!</title>
	<link>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joel Holdsworth</title>
		<link>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-46784</link>
		<author>Joel Holdsworth</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-46784</guid>
		<description>Hi,

Has there been any progress lately on an open bus/public transport layer? I've been adding bus routes in my area, and I'd quite like a way of viewing them... it'd promote people recording them as well. Is there any move toward doing this?

All the best
Joel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Has there been any progress lately on an open bus/public transport layer? I&#8217;ve been adding bus routes in my area, and I&#8217;d quite like a way of viewing them&#8230; it&#8217;d promote people recording them as well. Is there any move toward doing this?</p>
<p>All the best<br />
Joel</p>
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		<title>By: Eimai</title>
		<link>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36925</link>
		<author>Eimai</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36925</guid>
		<description>Belgian rules are well described here btw http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Walking_Routes
For the Netherlands there's a page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Wandelroutenetwerken (in Dutch) describing the walking node networks. I have the impression those are the only efforts of writing conventions for walking routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belgian rules are well described here btw <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Walking_Routes" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Walking_Routes</a><br />
For the Netherlands there&#8217;s a page at <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Wandelroutenetwerken" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Wandelroutenetwerken</a> (in Dutch) describing the walking node networks. I have the impression those are the only efforts of writing conventions for walking routes.</p>
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		<title>By: Eimai</title>
		<link>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36923</link>
		<author>Eimai</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36923</guid>
		<description>Well, the Dutch cycle map renders them in the layer "wandelroutes", see http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/~rubke/fietskaart/index.html?zoom=11&#38;lat=51.19518&#38;lon=4.46029&#38;layers=B0000FTFFFFFTFFFT for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Dutch cycle map renders them in the layer &#8220;wandelroutes&#8221;, see <a href="http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/~rubke/fietskaart/index.html?zoom=11&amp;lat=51.19518&amp;lon=4.46029&amp;layers=B0000FTFFFFFTFFFT" rel="nofollow">http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/~rubke/fietskaart/index.html?zoom=11&amp;lat=51.19518&amp;lon=4.46029&amp;layers=B0000FTFFFFFTFFFT</a> for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36921</link>
		<author>Andy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36921</guid>
		<description>Seems to be a wide mixture. In Germany there's lots of use of "hiking", in London there's "ldp" (for long distance path) and like you say there's other stuff in the NL. I think because nothing is rendered or used there's no standards yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be a wide mixture. In Germany there&#8217;s lots of use of &#8220;hiking&#8221;, in London there&#8217;s &#8220;ldp&#8221; (for long distance path) and like you say there&#8217;s other stuff in the NL. I think because nothing is rendered or used there&#8217;s no standards yet!</p>
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		<title>By: Eimai</title>
		<link>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36920</link>
		<author>Eimai</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 12:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36920</guid>
		<description>What are the tags being used for the walking routes in the UK? I found nothing in the wiki about it. In Belgium and the Netherlands we're tagging as "nwn" for long distance paths crossing the country, "rwn" for the walking node networks (yeah, we really like those node networks :-) ) and "lwn" for the small themed routes (usually loops of 10-15km). Basically to make it just like the cycle nodes because the routes are similar, so it makes sense if you did the same in the UK :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the tags being used for the walking routes in the UK? I found nothing in the wiki about it. In Belgium and the Netherlands we&#8217;re tagging as &#8220;nwn&#8221; for long distance paths crossing the country, &#8220;rwn&#8221; for the walking node networks (yeah, we really like those node networks <img src='http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and &#8220;lwn&#8221; for the small themed routes (usually loops of 10-15km). Basically to make it just like the cycle nodes because the routes are similar, so it makes sense if you did the same in the UK <img src='http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chance</title>
		<link>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36861</link>
		<author>Tom Chance</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/05/29/look-ma-no-hands/#comment-36861</guid>
		<description>Very nice! I've heard you're looking at displaying multiple routes side by side as well, that will be very interesting for relations like bus routes.

I'll certainly have a look at adding walking routes to the green map we're making of Sutton with OSM data &#38; tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice! I&#8217;ve heard you&#8217;re looking at displaying multiple routes side by side as well, that will be very interesting for relations like bus routes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly have a look at adding walking routes to the green map we&#8217;re making of Sutton with OSM data &amp; tools.</p>
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